Poor Camie, right?? Now everyone thinks she’s a creeper.
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More BNHA ideas. I want to see Izuku confronting the older generations of heroes, especially Gran Torino because he’s VERY black and white. While they react with shock or outrage that he tried to save the villains too, I picture Deku just giving them all a long look, and saying something like “Aren’t the people who need a hero the most, the people who are the most lost?” Like I feel like that kind of sentiment is Deku’s endpoint in therms of ideals.
I would love to see this too, and expect something like this to happen eventually!
OH that Noragami chapter. Soft Nora? AND Yukine and Nora growing closer? Yes please. BUT I realized something. YukiNora only works nicely, because both Father AND Yato aren’t there. Father will twist the relationship to his own ends, and we’ve seen Yato’s attitude to Yukine being with Nora. Yato trying to keep them apart used to be framed as good in a way – Nora was kinda dangerous. YukiNora’s current status turns that on its head, showing Yato had a role in stalling YukiNora’s positive growth.
Yup. It kinda gets to the trauma of abuse that Noragami covers–Yato is responding in fear becaue Nora has always been used by Father and he has no reason to believe otherwise, but at the same time, she’s also an abused child who needs sympathy and help. Yato’s actions aren’t really condemnable, and I can’t fault him, but it’s tragic all around in how it shows how far-reaching the affects of abuse are.
More Noragami thoughts. Nora talks very pointedly about how she’s always been “missing something”. She immediately follows up with talking about how she collected names. I can’t think of a bigger hint-drop that the live, human, Nora never had a name. She’s been shown to remember things that shinki aren’t supposed to remember, and she has abilities that are considered impossible/unnatural. Does she remember she was nameless? Is having been nameless as a human tied to her uniqueness as a shinki?
I think this is very plausible. Poor Nora. She really just wants to be wanted, and to be loved.
Kacchako fanfic rec. Two Black Dots, by Tharros on Ao3. It’s seemingly incomplete, I don’t know the update schedule, but what’s currently there is solid. That Kacchako dynamic just works so, SO, well as a slow-burn. I love Ochako’s descriptions of how Bakugou makes her feel strong. Also chapter 15 is Mina’s moment to shine – like calling Kaminari “brave, beautiful son of a bitch” for being willing to poke a sleeping Bakugou to make sure he’s asleep. It cracks me up every time.
OH thank you! I’m definitely gonna check it out!
BNHA thoughts, re-reading. Baggage about education. There are 2 characters I don’t like being played for laughs. One is Mineta, which doesn’t need explaining. The other might seem strange: Aizawa. I glossed over it on the first read, I was interested in diving into the story more so than the details, but remember the part where Aizawa is stated to have given an entire class the boot because they didn’t meet his standards? I’d like to see an arc that acknowledges the damage that can do. PART 2 >
Pt. 2. On Aizawa’s standards: there is merit to the idea that he’s weeding out those who won’t make it as a hero, a dangerous job, which is his justification. BUT. Who is he to deem someone unworthy? I feel like such high standards are creating future villains in those who are booted out. I’d like to see someone maybe taunt him with some familiar faces, telling him that he “could have made them heroes, but look where they are now” type of thing. Even if blaming the mentor isn’t really fair. P3 >
Pt. 3. I’d like to see Aizawa have to choose between his standards and his (former) students. Treat them as villains, and judge them unworthy one more time? Or see that his strict judgements have consequences. Not every hero hopeful is Ochako or Deku, who treat such standards as obstacles to surpass. Aizawa’s methods shouldn’t be seen as the only way. You work in education, this will resonate or offend, but it’s my candid view: If students are failing, someone’s failing their students.
Well, I strongly agree on Mineta lol! But I think the thing about Aizawa is that it’s a fictional story, and I don’t agree with that reading, at least within the context of the story, though I do agree with it in educational theory. Unlike, say, Assassination Classroom, BNHA is not offering a treatise on how education should be done, or critiquing modern education at all. Education is kind of… the setting of the story, but it’s not a concept BNHA has explored so far at all. The context simply does not frame Aizawa as someone who ought to be criticized, and while in theory I definitely agree that if everyone in your class is failing the problem is probably your teaching (though, to be clear: not always) and it’s your duty as a teacher to work with your students no matter what standard they are at, I think the context of BNHA as a story doesn’t really allow for that kind of criticism because it never has set up an expectation that we should critique teaching methods, etc.
So, educationally, I agree with you; narratively/literarily, I don’t agree but because I don’t think the story has set up that expectation. It’s different than in, say, TG wherein clearly I should see Kaneki eating kids as personal growth according to the ending when I refuse to see it that way; however, the story clearly established hurting kids as wrong beforehand in particular in regards to Kaneki, so that’s a contradiction in terms of themes. BNHA never set up that theme, so it isn’t a contradiction. However, I do think it’s something that can be critiqued about the story.
(i also can’t remember and need to reread, but is it possible that’s an urban legend about him as a teacher anyways? tbh it does seem to contradict other aspects of his character, but who knows)
Kacchako headcanons. They take each other seriously, she doesn’t treat him like he’s just a hothead with a scary quirk and a scary attitude. He doesn’t treat her as weaker than him, or less than him, or fragile. Even when they hug, he gives Ochako a full, strong embrace, and she returns it. She’s a little soft on the outside, but she’s a pillar of muscle underneath, and he likes that, it makes her feel solid, unbreakable. It’s good for Ochako too, being treated as strong makes her feel strong.
YESSSS This is what I love about that ship–how he sees her strength and she sees his internal insecurity and drive. It’s so yin yang *wipes tears*
The fact that we got inside Ochako’s head in the recent chapter, even if it was like one panel, gives me hope. The fact that every time Ochako appears to be about to have an arc, it doesn’t happen, makes me worried that my hope is in vain. (It’s like Touka or Saiko in TG:RE – it’s not that they have no character development, it’s that they don’t have complete arcs, and the development they get tends to be squandered in the grand scheme of things.)
SAME. Please, Horikoshi Sensei, give Ochaco an arc; my daughter deserves one. I do think she will get one… I hope. Horikoshi has said that he considers her development to be important, but I also just hope it’s about more than her crush on Deku though I do think obviously that has to be a part of it.
But yeah, I lost a lot of faith after Touka and Saiko never got them in :re (before stans yell at one of us, Touka ended and began TG:re waiting by a window for Kaneki; she didn’t have an arc in :re despite having the best female deuteragonist arc perhaps ever in TG & I’m allowed to be disappointed with that just like others are allowed to like it, please don’t harass me).
I said this in a comment but I’ll say it again in an ask – Dabi is the most glaring example of the League having really poor cohesion (well, him and Toga, but her acting on her own causes less trouble). Dabi repeatedly demonstrates less maturity than Shigaraki, and possibly less maturity than Himiko, either of which has to be an achievement. Honestly this is what the League needed Kurogiri for – to be everyone’s mom-friend and voice of reason.
Yep haha. I actually think it’s interesting and important that Kurogiri is the one who’s been captured–the one who can reign in their worst instincts and keep them moving towards some kind of goal is now removed from the situation. Chaos, ensue.
I think it really comes down to the fact that the villains don’t know what they want as a group/have different goals. Class 1A for example is united in wanting to become heroes, even if their motives are different. The League wants to upend society–but do they have a concrete image for what society should look like? Do they even care? Pretty clearly, they don’t have that image, and that’s why I think that when they eventually upend hero society (which they almost certainly will) it’s going to be a classic “was what you thought you wanted really what you wanted after all?” type of situation. Some will probably go down with a sinking ship; others like Dabi and Shigaraki I’m thinking will have to find a new way to get what they want.
Shigaraki, for example, hates Stain despite the fact that his existence is the reason the League has so many members now, and I really don’t think he wants much of anything other than to lash out at those who didn’t save him because what he really wants is love and safety. Shigaraki doesn’t want a society with heroes at all. AFO is not going to give him the love and security he craves (especially if Shigaraki is every useless to him) and eventually Shigaraki should realize that. Himiko wants fun and a feeling of belonging. Twice wants to feel whole. Spinner wants to bring down false heroes. Mr. Compress… idk. Dabi wants revenge on Endeavor for some reason (probably because he is Touya). Most of them aren’t there for the ideology but there because they’re lonely people who are trying to work through traumas and personal pain in their pasts.
Based on what we know about Dabi, I don’t think he wants to be a villain actually, or sees himself that way despite teaming up with the league. If anything, I think who he wants to be is a lot closer to being a hero, but his own specific definition of a hero. Like with Stain, he believes heroes who don’t exactly act like heroes should be brought down.
That also probably has to do with why he doesn’t kill anyone except villains (and the implication was that he was looking for low-grade villains to use to create High End), doesn’t turn Aoyama in, and is willing to work with Hawks. Like, I don’t think he’d ever acknowledge this even to himself, but as that brilliant meta by @echodrops pointed out, he kinda sucks at being a villain.
Of course, the irony for Dabi is that he’s becoming exactly what he supposedly hates: someone who does awful things but hey they have a goal so it’s all okay! He’s evaluating people based on their worth to soceity, which is exactly what Endeavor does (and presumably what Dabi hates him for regardless of whether or not he is Touya). It isn’t okay, and that’s the tragedy of Dabi’s situation that will probably bite him eventually.
I second Ochako’s need for an arc. She has so much set-up – both in terms of her own motives and character, also her effect on the group. Even her romantic interest in Deku can go somewhere development-wise – If she pursues her feelings, that introduces new tensions to the group. Or negative character growth, if she gives in to her jealous streak and starts becoming less “heroic”, where does that go? What I mean is, even the quality she’s “stuck” on can be put towards her character developing.
YES. Give Ochaco an arc 2k18.
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