I’m sorry to bother you again, but I just finished a pretty interesting discussion with a friend. Hide said he was hiding from Washuu, but … if you hide from a … society, say, so strong, you have to have allies. It is not necessarily confirmed, but Hide was left to die by a Kaneki who at that time was not thinking (like now he does think in perspective). Who saved Hide? How did he get to the CCG? So many questions and few answers …

No worries, you’re not bothering me!! And yeah. I do think there’s more to Hide hiding from the Washuu than meets the eye. Hide’s crafty enough to not have a ton of allies I believe, but tbh the sewer thing is a giiiiiant question mark.

I have seen theories Uta was involved, considering that Kaneki lost an eyeball around that time and Uta was then seen with an eyeball, and saving people underground is something we know Uta’s done (Yomo) and we also know he isn’t as cold as he pretends to be (Donato referred to him as sentimental). There are lots of theories linking Hide to Itori as well, so that could be relevant.

It’s also true that Hide was drawn with the underground three dot symbol, so I definitely think Hide’s in some way connected to the 24th ward… and the clowns probably are too.

Hello again! About Shirazu, it would be unfair if he comes back while Saiko is sleeping/sick. But well, as a Saiko fan, I know it could be happen, Ishida often forgets Saiko XD

Hello! So, I think it would make thematic sense if Mutsuki and Urie have to communicate without Saiko as a go-between and address the elephant of Shirazu together, saving him as Saiko saved them…

(because I refuse to believe there is no way of getting through to the zombies–that’s just so much less thematically interesting. You might have to take out our confront Donato and/or Uta though to get through to them since the cross implies they’re controlling them–hey Amon, Yomo, WHERE ARE YOU BOTH??–but there has to be a way. You can pry a loving peaceful second death for them from my cold dead hands XD)

…but I agree that Saiko would have to play some sort of role. Saiko, Hide, and Touka are all back at the CCG headquarters, presumably Hinami as well (good job Juuzou–she can’t fight because of what you did to her, not that she should fight anyways being 17, but you know what I mean). Something has to happen there and I’m pretty sure something will… but I don’t know what yet.

Okay, this is a really, really random theory I have, but could Uta and Itori be one eyed ghouls? As far as I can remember, the only time we’ve seen Itori’s kakugan was when she was talking to Kaneki in the bar and she only had one eye open. Uta has never been seen without his kakugan, so perhaps his scleral tattoos could hide the fact he only has a kakugan in one eye? Thoughts?

It’s actually not a strange theory at all! @midnight-in-town has written extensively about it.

Firstly, Itori. We’ve only ever seen her with one kakugan (she showed it to Kaneki when she met him, and she was winking).

Secondly, Uta. You’re right about the scleral tattoos, and there’s the fact that the Washuu OEG Matsuri describes looks like him:

Aaaaand there’s this illustration of Uta Ishida drew for his birthday, in a similar pose to how Ishida’s drawn other characters with ghoul/human heritage.

Honestly, I’m pretty sure Uta is indeed a OEG. Itori I think so but am less sure.

Do you think there’s a possibility that something might happend to touka or her beign capture by the clowns? I was asking this because Itori knows about her pregnancy and maybe she want it to use it against kaneki or something like that meanwhile he’s with ayato

I do think it’s possible, but I don’t know that I’m betting on it right now! I reeeeeeally love @linkspooky‘s theory that the clowns plan to separate and play with the characters (aka force them to come to realizations & possibly confront them with their dead loved ones). I think between Tsukiyama (& Nishiki), Ui & Hirako (& crew), Suzuya (& squad), Urie (& Qs), and presumably Amon & Akira, and the fact that we’ve got 4 clowns, one of them could each take a crew right now (Donato can take Qs & Amon & Akira). It doesn’t have to be that simple though, but short version: I think the clowns are currently preoccupied with having fun.

Afterwards though, quite possibly as a result of whatever happens when they play (think: Suzuya using Arata) since it’s probably all gonna be one long arc (it’s pretty certainly the last arc of TG), I can see the clowns addressing Touka, cue Yomo, because Yomo still needs to confront Uta (& Itori). 

Sincerely i think itori is interested about touka pregnancy because she sees herself in touka about the pregnancy this is only my opinion and how Itori know that touka is pregnant? It have been hinted when she says that touka looks “more womanly” but how could possibly she have know it ? I hope in the Next chapters if appears itori she will explained to us. Sorry for my stupid question and for have bother you bye!

No worries! And you aren’t bothering me, and it’s not a stupid question!

My answer is Yomo basically. Yeah, he was injured, but he knows Touka is pregnant and told her so right before he went to fight Mutsuki and Aura. 

Uta then showed up and Yomo was still talking then, specifically about needing to save Hinami and Touka. 

Uta (and presumably Itori) took him out of there then, but he was still conscious and talking then, so he probably told Uta (who then told Itori). 

idk if it’s just me but it feels like Ishida will rush the Clown backstories. i’ve seen a lot of theories around the fandom about uta’s backstory going to end up similar to kaneki’s current ordeal with dragon, donato will probably do something horrid and amon will lose control and cannibalize him in his kakuja form, itori is up in the air for now, not sure about nico but i suspect he’ll be tied into V somehow, so my hype is kind of dwindling. the only clown i truly want focused on is rio

Haha, another clowns ask! 

I’m going to voice an… unpopular opinion here. Please don’t hate me 😛 (I’m joking but I know this is going to be unpopular): I don’t think the Clowns are nearly as important to the story as we might like them to be. They’re observers mostly. They don’t move the plot forward very much; Uta’s provoked Mutsuki and Kaneki but beyond that Uta and Itori’s claim to the plot is via their friendship with Yomo, which I personally find the most intriguing part of them as characters! I agree that the only backstory I see mattering is Uta’s if he is indeed the Nagaraj, and Itori’s as it connects to Uta’s (or if Itori is the Nagaraj), and how those connect to Yomo’s arc. I honestly don’t think that reveal will be a huge game changer either. 

I agree that Donato will die during that confrontation with Amon most likely but I don’t necessarily see Amon cannibalizing him–I’ll wait until it’s actually going down to decide haha (wheeeeeeeen). Nico will be fine in the end, but yes, Rio! I don’t really consider Rio a clown–he was too sick to make his own decisions. I don’t expect a ton of focus on him, but I do think Rio will get a happy ending, even if we just see like a panel or so confirming it. 

Tbh, for me uta messing with mutsuki all through the series since the auction arc and it leading to no confrontation at the end or to ch 114, seems a bit…random, there was the auction, the mask shop, 114 it was almost as if uta was waving all the flags in front of him with a neon sign saying “hey, im a clown!” If mucchan realized that it would have ruin some of their plans (maybe)

Yeahhhhhh and that does make it possible there will be a confrontation some day. I’m hoping we get more Uta soon tbh. 

Crack theory, but what if the current Dragon situation is a parallel to the Nagaraj incident in the past? Kaneki = the vessel, Rize = the true Dragon. However in the past, Uta = the vessel, Itori = the true Dragon? It could explain their close relationship, alongside why Uta has holes in his Kagune. I know @Midnightintown has a lot of theories about Itori, I hope this could maybe add something or makes sense.

Tinfoil hat, I would love it. As much as I want the original OEK to be Itori this does imply it’s Uta:

That just looks like Uta to me. (Donato=another possibility though.)

That being said, the vessel and nucleus idea you suggest is verrrry interesting and I would certainly not mind it–Itori’s mask seems unlikely to be random, after all. And if Itori and Uta do know more about how it worked last time (pretty likely) that could provide incentive for them to show up and warn people about what might really be going on–well not really the CCG, but certain people like Yomo.

@midnight-in-town, you have been paged.

When will my son hajime come back from the war? I know he was tied to amon’s arc but i really, reaaaaally want him to interact more with mucchan (and for mucchan to take care of him) pls, my murder children need to stick together

I don’t know… I was starting to fear he was dead but that panel of the Oggai in which Rize describes them as “little coffins” noticeably does not have Hajime.

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It has Mayuzumi, the only other Oggai we know by name, but not the one we actually do know by name and personality, which is odd. Here’s Hajime in his mask:

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No Oggai in that panel has a hairstyle with bangs and strands dangling down along the side of his face. Of course, this is just taking place in Kaneki’s mind… but if Ishida wanted to foreshadow Hajime’s survival, this would be a way to do it. So I have renewed hope he survived. 

Unfortunately, Mutsuki and Hajime bonding is very likely to be left to fanfiction. (and believe me I will write it haha!) To be honest within the story Hajime needs someone more stable than Mutsuki right now. 

If he reappears, given that we probably have ~44 chapters left, my guess is it would be with Donato because a) Amon, and b) Donato knows about Amon’s desire to protect orphans, and c) the clowns. You see, Uta was definitely there in the 24th ward, Itori also presumably was there, Roma was dead, Rio had run for his life (keep running baby) and that leaves us Nico and Donato as the two clowns we don’t know about. Nico honestly seems like he would not enjoy seeing children torn apart (given his reaction to Yamori killing the child in the Aogiri arc) so I am skeptical about him being there, but given Donato’s ties to Uta and history of hurting children, it seems (as horrific as it sounds) that Donato would almost certainly have wanted to witness what happened in the 24th ward… and if Hajime did survive, Donato may actually have been partly behind that. I’m sure Donato probably wants to use him to taunt Amon, but yeah. We;ll see. 

Anon who asked about the checkerboard pattern here. That was a really good meta you linked. Would you also say it ties in to Uta? Since the pattern appears in his shop and his tattoo “I can live neither with you nor without you” implies that kind of dualistic symbolism.

Yup yup yup yup. Definitely. Uta is kind of the embodiment of a lot of the series’ themes of connecting–like he can’t live with people but can’t live without them… which implies some kind of middle ground, or learning, that Uta hasn’t quite approached yet.