Relationships , though he abondoned most of them at some point people went to save him because they love him because they did get to know him and you just don’t give up on people you love. He show them that though you Made mistakes you can still be love and he show them compassion. Rize and Furuta cope with their Trauma un a different way and unfortunatly they Made no room for no one

They did not allowed anyone to love them or to get close so it gets difficult for someone to be saved when you push every chance of being so away (again this doesn’t mean they did not deserved to be saved) I am by any circumtances saying that murdering is a good thing and this I Aply to everyone I Think K punishment for his bad Doings as Shiro was the ccg since I Think is the time that he suffered the most due yo the violence that was aplied to him there by people he loved

I Think most of the people in the tg fandom, do not Undersantd How stressful can actually be deal with a huge number of worldwide fans reading your story can be. Ishida recibed a lot of hate because of it recibed death threats Even. It went as far that his health got compromised, it is natural to see that Will affect his writing and I understand why everything got so rushed. I mean people at this point care more about Quality manga rather than an actual persons health D: (not saying udid this)

Hi! Thank you for being so polite again. I see where you’re coming from. 

And about how stressful it is for Ishida, I agree. I definitely never did that, and I am angry with people who did (most people I know who didn’t like the ending, though, did not do this, and it was depressing when it ended to be lumped in with people who did). I wrote this in response to someone’s ask misinterpreting Ishida’s ending essay, and I still stand by it. No piece of fiction or art is worth someone’s health, and I hope Ishida prioritizes his health first and foremost. (I actually am glad for example that Togashi gets to take hiatuses in HxH even if I desperately miss the story, because he matters more than a story). Ishida’s got a life outside of writing and I hope he gets well, regardless of whether he authors another work or not. I wish him the best. People sending him death threats over a ship were awful and should feel badly for what they did and never do it again. A person is always worth more than their work. 

crack theory: mikasa and armin will go on annies titan form to slap some sense into eren (i believe that even if mikasa and armin cant fully get through him, mikasa+armin+annie could be a strong weapon of massive destruction on eren’s walls), even though i dont have a pale idea on homw snk could end in sincerely believe that the powers of the titan’s shifters must be locked one way or another so no one can abuse it (looking @ you marley and a bit paradise)

Yeah. I think they have to end the titan curse somehow, and memories might help them do it? But we will see. I’m scared for what it could mean.

I also really need an Armin Annie Mikasa team up to get some sense into Eren. Or also to buy Mikasa some chocolate and console her the girl needs a hug. 

Haha no problem ! Well; I’m gonna re-write my question: I told you since you seem to have good taste when it comes to mangas, I thought, maybe Kuro is a really good manga for it catching your interest, when I had a hard time getting into it, even after watching the first episodes. So I was wondering which part(s) of it made you prefer it over some other mangas

Oh thanks! I have hearrrd the anime is not a good adaptation. But I don’t know, because I have not watched it! TBH a huge part of why I picked it up was reading my friend @midnight-in-town‘s theories and posts about it. Usually seeing a friend’s enthusiasm sells me on a story more than anything. When I started reading, I was intrigued because Faust is a fave story of mine, so seeing this twist on it was right up my alley. It is, however, not without flaws (no story is), and people won’t always have the exact same taste. If it isn’t for you, that’s fine!

(I will also state that Acchan recommended I skip the first five chapters, which I did on my first read, and I don’t regret it. It doesn’t really confuse you.) 

What are your ideal endings for the main HxH characters (four main + villain trio?) Obviously whatever is narratively satisfying, but what would your dream ending be for each of their arcs?

aspoonofsugar:

Hello anon!

Sometimes ago I wrote this meta with some predictions about
the ending.

Let’s say that these predictions coming true is mostly how I
would like each character arc to end, but they are pretty vague, so I am open
to other solutions.

That said, I’ll try to come up with some headcanons for you,
but I don’t know if I will be able to. After all, HxH is a series whose ending
I don’t really care about simply because I don’t really see it approaching
anytime soon.

Keep reading

Hi! I hope I don’t offend u but I’m interested in knowing why u have ur point of view, i can’t dm u ”cause I don’t have a Tumblr ir Twitter to reach out to u. I would like to Understand why you belive K should have saved or apologized to his abusers, I’m bringing this out cause whether people like it or not fiction it is tied to the real world and is supoused to represent it at some extent. I personally Think that K should not be responsable of the salvation of no one unless you are talking

About his own childs. I would like to add and explain why I Think this way cuase the way of life in muy country affected my view regarding this stuff. In muy country we do not have preventive prison for rapist abusers or thieves because our judicial system does not belive in the stigmatization of criminals instead of that they recibe containment and we have almost forbidden to self defense ourself

Tbh the criminals are better treat than the victim itself. I find it shocking when u Say that K should have saved people as Rize (though this doesn’t mean that I whish her ir furuta to die) or Furuta when they abuse K. Why do you Think he should ho as far as save his own abusers? I understand that they were Also victims butI don’t Think anyone is at obligation to save people that abuse you

Ahhh I understand. Thank you for reaching out; I appreciate it Anon! I really respect that. 

So basically: my issue is in how the writing went in terms of framing. By framing I mean the context around which an event occurs in a story, which is supposed to show you what to think about it. I’ll explain why I feel how I do below, if that’s okay? 

I actually wanted a happy ending for Kaneki. I always did, and only ever expressed fear that we wouldn’t get one after I believe 144, which was hardly unique. I then fully believed he would be saved and wanted him to be, and wanted him and Touka together. I also never thought she would lose the baby. I think he deserved a happy ending. He was an abuse victim too. 

To be fair, I never actually said I thought Kaneki was responsible for saving people who hurt him. I don’t think that and I wholeheartedly agree with you that no one is under the obligation to save people who abuse you. But by that logic, why then did the entire world try to save Kaneki (including those who did not know him well), when he’d killed people they loved? If the reasoning around it was made clearer, I would not have nearly as much of a complaint about it as I do. You can piece it together, but I just didn’t find it clear or convincing enough. I know others did though. 

I also didn’t have a major issue with Furuta’s ending at first and said as much–until 177, where he kills Rize, and said after 176 that I thought it was not what I wanted, but not inherently bad writing and seemed to be rushed but nothing bad. What happened after, though–the framing around Rize’s death–made me dislike Furuta’s ending as well. Kaneki could be seen as having at the very least understood Furuta, and I did see it as that, but him then going on to kill Rize made it seem like he was just eager to kill his enemies. It’s fine to read it differently, but the framing makes it very unclear especially since Kaneki attacked first and refused to talk to Furuta until the end (which again, is not inherently bad. Furuta was a known manipulator. But there are other things that could have happened to frame it slightly differently). 

Rize was someone he tried to connect with in the Torii Gate scenes, and someone he projected his worst instincts into in his mind throughout the entire series. But the framing of the Torii Gate scene left it unclear whether or not this was really Rize, so it’s valid for those who think it’s projected Rize. I personally think it’s really Rize, and I also never really thought Rize had a good chance of surviving. But the thing is, I have a major problem with the main character killing the female he’s projected his worst instincts onto in his mind. It’s icky in a real world context, and in story framing as well. If Kaneki was Furuta’s scapegoat, then wasn’t Rize Kaneki’s and Furuta’s scapegoat? Even if he hadn’t actually harmed Rize until this point, he carried out the deeds Furuta had begun, which was confusing to me from a writing standpoint because I don’t think what we’re supposed to take away from it is being clearly communicated. 

Kaneki’s always been told to live no matter what he’d done (like as Shironeki) and that’s the message I still love. Live even if it isn’t stylish. But that message only seemed to apply to Kaneki, and not to other characters, but we’re also told that Kaneki’s flaw is thinking he’s a unique protagonist of a tragedy from the first chapter, so the question becomes is he a special protagonist, even though the entire first TG and first half of re set that up as a disaster for Kaneki that only led to tragedy, so if he’s not unique then why does he get a unique happy ending while other characters who are very similar do not? If all the other characters got as happy an ending, I wouldn’t mind as much. If the message was clearer on whether he was supposed to be special and unique or not, I would also not really be complaining. 

I also find that the framing of “I want to protect everyone!” and “I’m going to take responsibility by protecting what’s close to me!” disturbing when “everyone” doesn’t include someone who had no choice in this (Rize) in the exact same situation he was just in. Like, if he’d even tried and heard “there’s no way to save her with the toxins” that’d be better, but it didn’t look as if he’d tried and Kaneki’s habit of avoiding dififcult conversations (a fundamental flaw that led to Dragon in the first place) which he was never shown overcoming exactly made it hard for me to buy that he just understood it wasn’t possible. I can see how ppl would think that, I think that’s probably the intent of the writing, but the actual writing around I found flawed enough that I didn’t find it convincing. 

I also have a problem with the “I will protect what’s close to me even if I have to kill to do it!” which Ishida himself identified as the message, because that’s exactly the philosophy that led to the CCG preemptively wiping out ghouls, which we’re supposed to see as wrong… aren’t we? Even if it’s understandable.   

So basically, I found the ending a thematic mess, and that makes me dislike what happened even if I do like that Kaneki would up happy with Touka and Ichika. It made it impossible for me to appreciate Kaneki’s character growth because I don’t think it’s clear he grew at all, and if he did, I don’t know how he grew because the writing just was not convincing for me. And I’m not generally someone who needs things spelled out for me either; I like vague writing but writing that also seems somewhat logical in its purpose, and I just didn’t find that here. 

I am, however, sincerely happy for people who did like it. We all need stories we can relate to and characters we can love, and if you found that in Kaneki, that is good. He saved my life once too. I don’t have a problem with anyone loving the story or Kaneki or the ending or thinking it’s great writing: you’re totally allowed to consider it great writing and thematically clear! I’m just also allowed to not like the ending even if I still do love the series through Rose Arc and am happily collecting all the volumes, and to talk about why I didn’t like it. I bring unique experiences (my own context) to the fiction that I read same as you and everyone do, so no one’s going to process fiction in the same way. I certainly don’t believe everyone needs to agree with me, and I wish that ppl who like the ending were better at allowing ppl who didn’t like it to talk about it without being told they’re ruining things for everyone. Because my disliking it has no bearing on the absolute validity of you loving it. My disliking it isn’t the right opinion, but neither is someone else liking it. 

Stray Phoenix – Hamliet – Banana Fish (Anime & Manga) [Archive of Our Own]

Chapters: 1/10
Fandom: Banana Fish (Anime & Manga)
Rating: Mature
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Relationships: Ash Lynx/Okumura Eiji, Sing Soo-Ling & Lee Yut-Lung, Lee Yut-Lung & Shorter Wong
Characters: Lee Yut-Lung, Sing Soo-Ling, Shorter Wong, Ash Lynx, Okumura Eiji
Additional Tags: Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Implied/Referenced Sexual Assault, Redemption, Friendship, Hurt/Comfort, Alternate Universe – Canon Divergence
Summary:

Yut Lung grew up as a pawn in the Lee family. Determined to topple his brothers and grasp a new role for himself, he is accustomed to playing every person he knows. When he is warned about Golzine’s intentions to inject Shorter with Banana Fish, he chooses to free Shorter instead, and then finds himself in a new game, one he may not know the rules to.

Stray Phoenix – Hamliet – Banana Fish (Anime & Manga) [Archive of Our Own]

Do you think Eren deserves to get redemption/does it seem like narrative will give him a chance?

Sooo I think redemption is not about deserve, but rather whether or not it works for the characters arcs and the themes of the story that the character’s arc ties into. Redemption in a gray story like SnK looks very very different than it does in a story like, say, ATLA, where the evil and good are very clearly different sides.

So for example, Reiner. Is Reiner getting a redemption arc? I am going to argue he is, and then take this back to Eren, but it’s complex. Reiner’s redemption will not likely look like him switching sides.

Bertolt is right here. There is no way for them to make amends for all the people they killed. You can’t resurrect the dead. They cannot restore what they took. Neither, now, can Eren. 

The first step in redemption arcs is usually regret. Reiner experiences that in copious amounts in the Marlay Arc, but he is still not considering switching sides really. Rather that switching sides, though, what I think redemption would look like for Reiner is saving Falco and Gabi from their fates instead of telling Falco to basically do what Marcel did and sacrifice someone else for someone he cares about (and it didn’t work out for Marcel or Porco). Reiner was always about working for Marlay, for glory, for ideals, and therefore I suspect for him it would mean choosing to save individuals (because SnK explores this choice as a theme quite in-depth).

For Annie specifically, it might look like switching sides should she ever get out of that crystal (and she better), because she was pretty clearly set up for some kind of redemption and her focus was always on wanting to save her own skin, and she hated that about herself and admired Eren and Marlowe and Armin specifically because they did not do that, because they clung to their ideals no matter what. For Annie, if she chooses to help the walled people (even with the aim of getting back to her dad), I think that would qualify.

For Eren… yes, I expect a kind of redemption. I don’t know if it will look like him doing anything good for the world. It very well may not. That may fall to Armin. But who knows. For Eren, I think it would look like reconciling with his loved ones, especially Mikasa, as the person who has been there for everything with him. I do expect things to get way, way worse before any kind of reconciling happens, and no, I’m not expecting happiness, but a moment in which he acknowledges her and how badly he’s hurt her would count as the narrative framing him redemptively for me.

Hi! Bit out of the blue, but how do you think Mado Kureo would have reacted to Amon becoming a half-ghoul if he were still alive?

No worries!! I think he would have been horrified. He probably would have refused to see Amon as human to an extent, but if Akira was willing to look beyond it, as she was in canon–I think he might reconsider then. Mado, for all his great many faults, truly did love his daughter. I do think he truly cared for Amon as well, so the seeds to challenge his line of thinking would be there, especially if Akira made her choice to love Amon.