I think it’s pretty clear he hates Endeavor (presuming he’s Dabi). Regarding Shouto, I think there are a lot of possibilities, because Touya was the closest besides Shouto to fulfilling Endeavor’s desire to have a powerful kid. I think Touya may have been comparing himself to Shouto, since Endeavor surely compared them.
Therefore Touya might have different feelings towards Shouto than he does towards Natsuo and Fuyumi, whom I have absolutely no idea what he feels but I would venture to say he cares. He says implies as much here, at least:
But back to Shouto. I think it is entirely possible Touya pities his brother, but also it’s entirely possible he resents him in some way–we simply have very little information at this point, so both are possible. Or maybe he just pities him. Or maybe he mostly resents him, even as he acknowledges Endeavor is behind it. (You can resent someone and still care.) It is entirely possible he thinks Shouto is Endeavor 2.0, as we know that from others making this very assumption (like Inasa does), this is not a ridiculous assumption to make. Which may be in part why he taunts Shouto when he steals Bakugou from him.
As for Rei… I’m very, very, very interested to know his relationship with her given her relationships with her other children–which is positive. But we also know she snapped at one point, and we don’t know if Touya was around for that. I very much hope to see their relationship touched on.
Chapters: 7/12 Fandom: Banana Fish (Anime & Manga) Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Ash Lynx/Okumura Eiji, Sing Soo-Ling & Lee Yut-Lung, Lee Yut-Lung & Shorter Wong Characters: Lee Yut-Lung, Sing Soo-Ling, Shorter Wong, Ash Lynx, Okumura Eiji Additional Tags: Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Implied/Referenced Sexual Assault, Redemption, Friendship, Hurt/Comfort, Alternate Universe – Canon Divergence Summary:
Yut Lung grew up as a pawn in the Lee family. Determined to topple his brothers and grasp a new role for himself, he is accustomed to playing every person he knows. When he is warned about Golzine’s intentions to inject Shorter with Banana Fish, he chooses to free Shorter instead, and then finds himself in a new game, one he may not know the rules to.
Ooh, thank you! I definitely want to read more of Urasawa’s works; I genuinely think Monster is literary in value and would like, love to teach a class on it someday.
Oh he definitely is; I don’t think I’ve ever said that he isn’t! He absolutely is like. The embodiment of one. I love him. He is my son even if currently… currently he is grounded.
Fate/Zero yes! I have a tag for it here. I quite like it and think it’s excellently written with tighter writing than Unlimited Blade Works, but I still prefer UBW because the themes and arcs resonated more with me than Fate/Zero’s did (I am generally more inclined to like a hopeful story (and tragedies can be hopeful!) than a depressing one, but that’s just my personal taste). In fact, having seen UBW before Fate/Zero actually probably made me appreciate Fate/Zero more, because I knew the nihilism was leading somewhere beautiful.
So I was thinking about this and its possible repercussions in the current arc, i.e what Lizzie may still do before the arc ends.
I know this might not please everyone, since she’s often targeted by criticism, but she’s still a huge part of the arc (and of our!Ciel’s life) and Sensei dedicated an entire chapter recently to how she’s feeling, so you can bet it’s going to matter. 😀
Anyway, when you look at Lizzie in ch58, what she’s describing regarding the twins are two opposite dynamics:
when it comes to real!Ciel, she expresses passivity => she’s the one being protected
and when it comes to our!Ciel, she expresses activity => she’s the one who protects
Granted that this shouldn’t be taken too literally because she indirectly protected real!Ciel by fighting against Seb in ch117, just like our!Ciel protected her in ch14 for example, but this may still be interesting to consider the next developments.
After all, even though she did fight against Seb to stop him from investigating the labs, otherwise she’s been rather powerless when it comes to real!Ciel’s situation…
…or to what he (and UT) did in the current arc, which fits the passive dynamic.
Similarly, where real!Ciel telling her that he found strong women scary (when they were kids) is what led her to think she should be protected by him, the Campania arc happening 3 years after she decided that she would protect our!Ciel gave her the opportunity to reveal her true self to him…
…which is something that he accepted and he didn’t think any less of her after that (even when she almost kicked him in the face in ch107 xD).
So back to the current arc, where is this difference of dynamics supposed to lead Lizzie? Especially now that she’s freed from real!Ciel and the blue sect (who most likely didn’t give her a change to figure out why our!Ciel would even lie in the first place)?
Most importantly, if the current arc so far had Lizzie being passive because she was by real!Ciel’s side, now that she’s left him, can we expect that she takes a more active role, especially considering how she’s not even pissed at our!Ciel but just super confused and blaming herself?
In any case, I think a little detour by home is a great thing because her family always supported her and also taught her how to be strong. And, I don’t know if Frances’ current absence so far is supposed to play a role in helping Lizzie realize on which side she wants to be, but it might (especially if Frances already knew about our!Ciel lying and since Sensei said that Lizzie took her mom as a role model).
My personal opinion is that if Lizzie eventually decides that her place is by our!Ciel’s side (which I think is likely to happen for many reasons), then I bet you that she’ll most likely become very active again in striving to protect him, even from her original fiancé.
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