do you think abuse victims develop a battered sense of self worth about themselves?

I don’t think there’s one set way in which abuse victims respond so some do not, but many do, yes. I know I did. The thing about abuse is that it’s fundamentally set in the idea that someone is denying someone else their humanity and the basic respect and care that humanity carries with it. A lot of people, no matter how strong they are, are going to struggle with that because it’s fundamentally about tearing someone down. Especially as a child I think being abused has a massive effect on you, and it can be hard to grow out of that mindset and believe anyone can actually want to be around you. Developing healthy communication skills, as well as developing a sense of what is okay and what isn’t in a healthy relationship, is vital I think, but it’s a slow progress for many. However, the good news is that there isn’t a race and there isn’t a deadline. 

I for one am still struggling to develop a sense self-worth and some days are better than others. This blog helps, because at least I can speak my mind on it and talk about things I like that I’m afraid of chattering about IRL. It’s a step in  learning to be assertive, as is learning to ask for what I need. I have a few friends I am finally in a place where I can be like “hey, I’m feeling insecure today. Can you x?” And I have friends who ask the same of me. Also, often when someone mistreats me I have a habit of blaming myself, but recently I’ve been trying to assert that it is not okay to treat me a certain way without being aggressive and attacking them back. Sometimes people respond well. Sometimes they don’t, because they’re used to me rolling over and being a carpet. That’s okay, even if they don’t respond well, because sometimes in the past I haven’t either. All I can control is my own self. 

No abuse victim’s journey is the same, but tl;dr that’s a fairly common response. However, it’s not a life sentence to a lack of self-esteem and worth. 

I honestly think the “stand up for everyone, even the ones society forgot” theme would have been better suited to the original idea of deku being quirkless since it was portrayed as a devalued minority status. Do you think it’s a holdover from the original concept? I do agree it’s probably the theme the sort is going for but it seems like an opportunity was missed

I don’t know if it’s a holdover from the original concept, but it’s also my preference lol! I hope to see more quirkless characters and them portrayed as not useless because they lack a quirk (not that I think Horikoshi is portraying them as useless, but I’d just really love to see more of their role in society. Vigilantes actually does touch on this! But we’ll see!)

Stray Phoenix Ch 8 “Face Up” – Hamliet – Banana Fish (Anime & Manga) [Archive of Our Own]

Chapters: 8/12
Fandom: Banana Fish (Anime & Manga)
Rating: Mature
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Relationships: Ash Lynx/Okumura Eiji, Sing Soo-Ling & Lee Yut-Lung, Lee Yut-Lung & Shorter Wong
Characters: Lee Yut-Lung, Sing Soo-Ling, Shorter Wong, Ash Lynx, Okumura Eiji
Additional Tags: Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Implied/Referenced Sexual Assault, Redemption, Friendship, Hurt/Comfort, Alternate Universe – Canon Divergence
Summary:

Yut Lung grew up as a pawn in the Lee family. Determined to topple his brothers and grasp a new role for himself, he is accustomed to playing every person he knows. When he is warned about Golzine’s intentions to inject Shorter with Banana Fish, he chooses to free Shorter instead, and then finds himself in a new game, one he may not know the rules to.

Stray Phoenix Ch 8 “Face Up” – Hamliet – Banana Fish (Anime & Manga) [Archive of Our Own]

Speaking of revenge it can hurt people also can lead to emptiness in the end if completed if you choose revenge there’s no gurentee it can lead you astray can’t revenge be used for a greater purpose and deliver justice?

I genuinely don’t think it can be on a personal level, as far as the wounded is concerned. Anger can be used for justice, though, but I’m drawing a distinction between stopping someone and actively hurting them, I suppose.  Revenge I see as specifically seeking to make someone else suffer because they made you suffer. It’s not concerned with justice. Justice is making sure the person cannot hurt someone else ever again. I am very much in favor of justice, but I don’t think revenge has a place in it.

Like, look at Dabi from BNHA. His primary concern is not protecting his siblings or his mom or other people, it’s killing Endeavor. Dabi’s case is extremely sympathetic, and I’m not saying revenge isn’t a very human desire (it’s one I know well too lol), but that wounding someone else doesn’t make you feel better in the end and doesn’t make the world a better place. Kurapika in HxH isn’t seeking to focus on justice for his tribe; he’s seeking to make the Phantom Troupe suffer as he has suffered (look at how and why he killed Uvogin, what his last words were, and what conditions he put on Chrollo). Yut-Lung in Banana Fish isn’t looking to stop his brothers from hurting people as much as he likes to think he is: he’s looking to trap them in a neverending nightmare in which they are marionettes and he’s holding the strings… which is exactly what they did to him but without chemicals.

Can beauty come from vengeful tales? Oh hell yeah. There is a reason these three characters I cite are among my very favorites, as is Kylo Ren from Star Wars, Tenma in Monster, and on and on.

You know what I like about full metal alchemist you don’t half to forgive someone who wrongs you and anger is not a bad thing and it could be used for a better purpose as seen with scar he didn’t drown in emptyness because of revenge he only brought his angry to a greater purpose seen evident when he kills bradly and at the end

Yes, I agree! Anger is not wrong. Anger especially when someone has done something terrible to you is not wrong; it’s what you do with that anger that can be wrong (revenge), but you can also use anger to accomplish beautiful things as well. Anger is not inherently ugly. It can be used for ugliness, but also for good, like Scar as you say. Anger has a place in justice and is a part of healing as well.

you know I hate the same anime trope that revenge is wrong it would not achieve anything or get you anything I wish someone whould says it can be right how is it wrong when it comes to wanting to stop someone from doing horrible things revenge is not always wrong it can be used to help but being into it leds you astray

I don’t think I’m gonna give you the answer you want, lol. I do think revenge is wrong and it will not achieve anything but hurting someone else. I 100% support that theme because it is very, very, very true. If you are hurting and all you do is create another hurting person, you will not heal yourself.

That being said, stopping someone who is hurting people and continuing to hurt them is not revenge. Revenge is, I think, hurting someone because they hurt you. Revenge does not help you heal. It never does. Seeing someone’s actions bring consequences, though–that can be satisfying. That’s justice, not revenge.

It is a very natural human reaction, though, to want revenge, and I think some animes–Hunter x Hunter, with Kurapika’s arc, or Banana Fish with Yut-Lung’s, BNHA with Dabi, for example–do a great job empathetically looking at the characters who are out for revenge. Oftentimes they succeed in getting what they want, only to find out that, to quote HxH, it leaves them “drowning in an indescribable emptiness.”

endevoir might be trying to redeem himself but he has to know that he didn’t only hurt shoto but people around him as well as destroy their lives and cannot fix what he destroyed he cannot change those facts for what he did he cannot redeem himself by doing better he has to know this.

Yeaaaah I think the scene this chapter again reinforces that Endeavor does not quite get it. He’s really trying, but his redemption won’t come through talking to Shouto about how to be a better hero since that’s the vehicle through which he abused him.

That’s why Touya being Dabi is probably the way in which he will realize just how badly he has messed up, and honestly only once that revelation happens can Endeavor truly make progress reconciling with the kids who want to reconcile with him.