Tag: atla

I don’t really remember much from ATLA but if I watched only 2 seasons I would say writers were going for zutara. I mean, there’s cave of two lovers, red and blue, lovers divided by war, Katara being completely uninterested in Aang and just forced to kiss him, Katara and Zuko being Yin and Yang, Pieta at the end of book 2, Aang’s need to let go of attachement, him projecting his love on Katara, Zuko and Katara meeting in cave with green crystals. If someone told me kataang was endgame I’d be

Shocked. To me when it becomes clear Kataang is going to be endgame is “The Headbend”.
       
   

I’m afraid of opening a can of worms here, lol! But in my opinion (aka if you disagree cool you don’t need to yell at me please–not you anon but tumblr in general):

The
reason I presumed they were heading for Kataang was because Aang
vocalizes his crush on Katara quite a few times, and in season 1 Wu
tells Katara she’ll marry a “strong bender” which Aang is then referred
to. Logically if you’re introducing a romantic element it should pay off
in some respect even if it doesn’t become canon.

But besides the
other characters/Aang himself telling us to view them romantically
statements, there is nothing to hint at Aang having special feelings for
Katara. They don’t share a unique emotional energy or thematic
struggles that are separate from the ones the entire Gaang shares
together. I think Kataang would have been better written if the writers
made Katara
and Aang’s dynamic more unique, as the writer of the meta I reblogged earlier stated.
Aang and Katara’s dynamic wasn’t necessarily unique from Aang and Toph,
or Aang and Sokka. Again, the Gaang shares thematic struggles, but none
of these struggles uniquely concerned Katara and Aang besides his
stated crush which came up like once a season until the last few
episodes.  

Aang had to tell us multiple times “I have a crush
on
Katara” and a fortuneteller had to tell Katara “you’ll marry a strong
bender.”  It’s classic telling instead of showing: it was not shown to
us that he felt anything unique for
her besides that, whereas Zuko and Katara’s relationship was always
unique to them. I was already biased towards angst but that the unique
emotional crux of the story came down to them (like, the most dramatic
scene in ATLA is almost always considered to be the Agni Kai, not Aang
defeating Ozai) as well as my favorite themes… I was sold. 😛

I’m
not going to argue that she should have ended up with Zuko in canon
though, but rather that if the creators intended for Katara and Aang to
end up together, they should have written their romance better. Even the
creators admitted that they’d kinda
forced Kataang in some respects after the ending of LOK, so that’s
something I feel confident saying: that it could have been better
written. The creators agree and it’s fine to disagree–many people like
Kataang and that’s great, and I myself like it well enough–so like,
this is my opinion. Please don’t come at me with a mob.

Atla and Lok

❤ Favorite Male: ZUKO
❤ Favorite Female: Katara
❤ Favorite Pairing: Zutara!!! 
✖ Least Favorite Character: Ozai
✔ who’s most like me: Katara 
❤ most attractive: Zuko
❤ three more characters that I like: Iroh, Azula, Mai  

LOK:

❤ Favorite Male: Mako 
❤ Favorite Female: Korra
❤ Favorite Pairing: Korrasami
✖ Least Favorite Character: I’m really not sure. 
✔ who’s most like me: Asami 
❤ most attractive: Mako
❤ three more characters that I like: Wu, Bolin, Lin

In ATLA The Search Do you think Zuko loves(or even loved) Azula ?

I haven’t read the comics! But going off what I know from the show, I do think Zuko loves his sister, but he cannot help her and caring doesn’t excuse the shit they’ve put him (or the world) through. I also think Zuko has compassion for Azula because their dad was like, the worst dad. You can love someone and not necessarily want a relationship with them. I guess I would say Zuko empathizes with Azula. 

Since your answering Korra asks right now, how would you define Korra’s story over Aang’s by the way? It felt like.. in comparison to Aang’s story which was more so focused on destiny and overcoming all odds, Korra’s was more about self discovery and finding herself. They both still have that training to be a proper Avatar structure underlying though.

Yes, I agree! I think the producers of the series actually identified it as Aang struggling with the physical mastery of all the elements but having a natural inclination towards the spiritual aspect; however, Korra was a natural with all elements from the start but struggled with the spiritual aspect. I also think you sum it up quite nicely–Aang’s follows a more traditional hero journey whereas Korra’s is more introspective and about coming to terms with part of herself. 

Thank you for your answer! I personally loved the story of the first avatar, but the problem is that it is literally the part I liked the most of the Whole season and in terms of nuance it didn’t give much imo. Plus I really didn’t like how the Whole spirit world was handled and the idea of spirits being corrupted and being purified according to the 2 Main spirits. In ATLA what was truly fascinating about the Spirit World and its inhabitants was that they were ambiguous. They were detached cont.

from the human world and its conflicts. I loved how in ATLA the
MCs ended up stealing from the library bcs you understand that for them
it was necessary, but the Owl was definately right from his prospective
and especially since the Avatar is supposed to be the bridge while Aang
doesn’t do a good job in that episode. Both parts had their reasons
while in the second book of Korra all of this nuance was lost imo.
       
    

You said it really well. Yes. Also it kind of literally set up a dichotomy when ATLA had broken those dichotomies down.

It would be interesting if Iroh and Azula had an adventure together like he did with Zuko. It would be a good step for her as she finally has mentor figure that actually wants to help her. Iroh probably realizes this too and my try to help her the way he couldn’t help Ozai. He may help her get more spiritual. Their interactions would be really interesting as Azula probably blamed Iroh for Zuko and Iroh sees her as a young Ozai. Their adventure would be pretty… lit 🤣🤣

Omg that would be absolutely amazing, someone write it. 

Since you were talking of ATLA and LOK, top 10/5 best written arcs for both series in your opinion? I just love your lists!

Character arcs? Let’s go with that haha.

1) Zuko. My son. I love his arc. Best redemption arc ever.

2) Korra. How they handle PTSD is fantastic. And accurate. 

3) Toph. Her disability never defines her.

4) Katara. A really well written female character that I’m forever bitter about how the writers rushed the love story.

5) Azula. Well written female antagonist. 

6) Lin. I loved what they did with her and her relationship with her mother and sister.

7) Sokka. I liked his development too, and how he never lost what made him distinctly Sokka.

8) Tenzin. I never expected him to be nearly as complex as he was. 

9) Mai. I really liked her minor arc.

10) Aang. I liked how his arc was about him learning to grow up. 

I agree with you about the way you compare Korra and ATLA. Tbh neither Korra nor Aang were my favourite, but that’s because I don’t usually connect with main characters and are much more intrigued by the rest of the cast. I think I would have preferred if Korra instead of having one enemy for season would have had a bigger story similar to ATLA, but I have no idea of how many seasons they were confirmed beforehand. In ATLA I honestily love all the character arcs and how we got to know the cont.

world and the different population progressivily. I really like the idea behind Korra, like the themes of the world not needing an Avatar anymore and the necessity of balancing the old with the new, but I don’t think it was explored to its fullest potential (at least for me). Still I still enjoye both series. Sorry for the rambing I really love the Avatar world.

Yeah, I believe it was renewed on a season by season basis! Hence each season was its own contained storyline, whereas ATLA was one story over several seasons. 

While I totally agree with the fact that what Ursa said was wrong, how do you think she shouldve approached the situation? It would be hard to get Azula from Ozai’s grasp; should she have spent more time with Azula as well & talk to her about her behaviour more? I didn’t entirely blame Ursa as Ozai was abusive and Azula was a lot like him but she still contributed to Azula’s toxic mindset as she grew up.

Pretty much what you say: I think Ursa should have spent more time with her and talked to her about her behavior, but not in a way that made it seem like she was a monster. Tried to make it clearer she loved Azula no matter what, really.